Я так понимаю чтобы поиграть в эту игрульку нужно будет GF4... Плюс оперативки под гиг и все остальное тоже. Вот это меня впечатлило точно.

:baaa:Хе-хе. а ты видел требовани под Команч4? А он уже вышел. Производители говорят, что для того, что бы смотреть :pilot: его на максимальной графике надоть Пенёк 4-5гГц :angrylip: и карточку помощнее nV30, котораяещё не вышла. :zavelsa:
Гы:lol:


:ushelnafig

Мдя, придётся на форса же лететь за же форсом (4) :0 .
Простите за каламбур....

Так, я или глюкаю, но в команч 4 я гамался пол года назад, игруха стала ещё дебильнее по сравнению с 3-им, м требования по графике были не больше чем у Ил-2..

А хбз <!--emo&:ne_nau:, мож я игруху перепутал хто эти вертолёты разберёт, но мне специально отчет :poisk: производителей высылали. Типа так она тоже идёт, но вот что бы с полной поддержкой DX 8,1 :pray: - тут машинку надоть сильную. Вот покапаюсь, :type: есин не ShiftDel-итил его, то вывешу..... :banned:

Кто-нибудь видел где-нибудь аддон этот хренов, а? А то я тут заприметил на южке, в детском мире, но что-то мне он доверия не внушает. Мобыть еще где появился. А то хочся :hehe:

Какой аддон? Забытые сражения что ли? Так он исчо не вышел!

Ну, круто, так их растак. Еще не вышел, а у них уже продается. :angry: Ну, ясенько... Хорошо, что не купил... Будем ждать-с :hehe:

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Возвращаясь к теме про зеркала.
В "Забытых сражениях" они будут!

Финальная модель кабины летчика Ла-7. В кабине вы видите зеркало. В нашей игре зеркала будут в тех кабинах, в которых они были в действительности.

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Позиция одного из стрелков в ТБ-3. Прим.: можно случайно убить стрелка, летчика или второго летчика собственного самолета, если в пылу сражения забыть, что они находятся в секторе обстрела вашего пулемета

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Как жалко, что сюда не цепляются HTML целиком и с картинками. Вот, держите только текст, взято с http://www.il2center.com Пока на англицком написано, но если надо - то переведу.

IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles Preview

Title: IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles
Developer: 1C:Maddox Games
Official Site: Click here to visit
Release Date: 2003



I assume majority of the people reading this preview are familiar with the Il-2 Sturmovik in one way or another. For those who don't know anything about the sim, visit the official website and look over the awards page - that'll be a good start. IL-2 Sturmovik was the best flight sim of 2001, and quite possibly the best prop flight sim ever. The Forgotten Battles is the add-on turned sequel which should be released in just a few months.
So, what's really new in the Forgotten Battles? Well, the list is very extensive, which is why I will be publishing this preview in several installments. Today's first article is a general overview of everything that's new and improved in the Forgotten Battles.

I'm happy to say that the majority of feature requests and concerns from the original Il-2 will be addressed. Here are the most important ones for me, in no particular order.

1. Dynamic Campaign.

Campaign Interface The original IL-2 shipped with a rather stale static campaign which provided little immersion and many simmers felt the static campaign was the weakest feature of the whole game. To many flight simmers, dynamic campaign is the Holy Grail of flight sims. Many attempted to do it, few managed to do it right.
What will you get in the Forgotten Battles? Read a detailed description next week!

2. New Planes.
This is the area which probably has the people most excited. The original IL-2 shipped with a little over 20 flyable and 30-some AI-only planes. A multitude of free add-ons released during the next year brought the number up to a whopping 50 flyables and 31 AI planes. Well, FB will add another 30 flyable and 23 AI planes, plus a bunch of ground units and ships.
There will really be something for everyone. There's the slow and nimble I-153 biplane that in capable hands can be second to none in low-speed turn fighting, and the Me-262 the world's first operational jet fighter; there's the "long-nosed" FW-190 which will give any plane a run for its money and the Ju-87G, a version of the famous Stuka equipped with twin 37-mm guns that crack T-34s open in a single shot. Those who love a bit of a Western flavor in their flight sims will be able to fly the famous Hawker Hurricane, Curtis P-40 and the no less famous P-47 Thunderbolt. And for those who don't really care how welcome they are on the Eastern Front - FB will ship with a P-51 Mustang in AI-only form, with the cockpit released some time after the release as a free patch.
Finally, for those who like a different approach to their flights there is the giant TB-3, a lumbering Soviet four-engine bomber and two versions of the He-111, the venerable German two-engine bomber. Both will come with multiple crew positions that can be manned by multiple people in online games.
The new planes will be covered in detail in the third and last installment of this preview, in two weeks.

3. Maps.
FB ships with five new maps in addition to all of the old IL-2 maps. The IL-2 maps will mostly remain the same; you won't notice much graphical improvement in those. However the new maps are a huge overall improvement over the older maps. The most important addition is the Finnish Gulf map. It's almost four times as large as most of the old IL-2 maps. In most planes you won't even be able to fly from one end to the other on one fuel tank. The map includes the whole Finnish gulf, cities of Leningrad and Helsinki and a huge operational area for which the Soviet, German and Finnish forces thought back and forth for almost four years.
Helsinki and Leningrad, the two large cities featured on the Finnish Gulf map don't look like anything that's been modeled before in a flight sim before, or any other game for that matter. The number of buildings is simply staggering, and the generously placed high-resolution landmarks make them look simply amazing. And again the historical accuracy is unmatched. I was able to design and play a mission using historical maps I've had in a book. I took off from a historical StG1 base near Leningrad in a Stuka, flew navigating by the highway I had in my historical chart and then bombed a ship locating it by a period recon photo. There's not much sense just talking about it, here are some shots.

4. Engine Management.
The original IL-2 did not model this part of flying very deeply. Some may think it was bad; although many will think it was for the better as it made flying easier. In IL-2 you simply had a throttle lever which controlled everything. There was marginal prop pitch control modeled, which was usually kept on automatic by most players. FB improves on this aspect dramatically. It introduces a whole new engine management module which will have you wishing for a 200-key keyboard.
In the new module, throttle control is now joined by fully working propeller pitch and mixture controls. They work exactly as they should. If you know how to use them from real-life piloting experience you should feel right at home using the controls in FB. Only now will you understand the full workload of a WWII pilot. Even if you're blessed with a HOTAS you'll still find your hands full with all the wheels, and eyes constantly checking manifold pressure, RPM and engine temperature. If you don't have a HOTAS you'll be even closer to the real thing. There were no hands-on controls in WWII time and real pilots had to struggle to move all the different levers around the cockpit.

The prop pitch will become a second nature for you in FB and you'll be adjusting it constantly as you adjust throttle. Mixture won't need to be adjusted as much, but still you will see a significant increase in performance once you learn to use it.
There will also be supercharger control present on the planes so equipped, which will be crucial for your high-altitude performance. For example any La-5FN pilot who forgets to switch to the next supercharger speed when passing 4,500 meters may soon find himself descending to the ground sans their plane. Online dogfights will enter a new level of complexity with each plane trying to pull the fight to their best performance altitudes for a given supercharger speed. Learning your plane's capabilities will become even more crucial.

Finally, in addition to the new features some of the existing Il-2 features have been improved. As opposed to only two radiator settings (open and closed) FB will feature additional in-between settings giving you more control over engine temperature and drag. Throttle and WEP controls have also been improved. Not every single plane will have WEP available, and engaging it will no longer fix your throttle at 100%. You will be able to use the throttle with WEP engaged, as was the case in real life. Some of the planes not equipped with boost of any kind will have overthrottling enabled, allowing you to push your throttle lever up to 110%, giving you more power for a short period of time. Other planes will have neither WEP nor 110% throttle - just the good old boring 100%.
Overall controlling your engine in the Forgotten Battles is a much more engaging affair than before. It will make the gap between the good and bad pilots even wider, and give most Luftwaffe pilots a new advantage over their Allied counterparts. While most US and Soviet planes only have manual prop pitch and mixture controls, most of the German planes have the systems fully automated. Just like with cars with automatic and manual transmission, this will make it easier for average pilots to fly Luftwaffe planes while allowing more experienced Allied pilots to push their planes further at the cost of high cockpit workload.
And for the more casual gamer, the Complex Engine Management is simply a toggle in the Difficulty screen. Don't want to meddle with all the switches? Just turn it off and you'll be using the IL-2 style fully automated controls tied to nothing but your throttle lever.

5. Other stuff
While in IL-2 you could select markings of many air forces and put them on your plane, really only Soviet and German air forces were modeled in the way that made gameplay sense. However in FB whole sets of historical aircraft are modeled for a few additional air forces. For the Finnish front, the area of the almost unknown in the west conflict between the Soviet Union and Finland, almost the full arsenal of the Finnish Air Force is modeled with Brewster Buffalos, Fiat G-50s, Ms-406s, Bristol Blenheims and more. There's also the Rumanian and Hungarian air forces with their historical markings and planes like the IAR I-80, Me-210 and Bf-109.
You'll be able to fly a full-fledged dynamic campaign as a Finnish, Hungarian, German or Russian pilot, flying historical planes in historical areas, of course receiving awards and ranks authentic for your air force. But not only that - The Forgotten Battles also ships with additional speech packs which will have your air force speaking its native language. The Finns will speak Finnish; Hungarians will speak Hungarian and Brits and Yanks will speak English (although mostly with an American accent - but of course only the RAF's Eagle squadrons are modeled in FB)
The new ship models I've touched on before are really a huge improvement over the ships you've seen in IL-2. Some of the ship models are more detailed than planes, and they can take partial damage. You can now take out those nasty flak guns with a strafing pass, and a torpedo hit up the freighter's side can leave a big burn mark on the side without sinking it.
Then there's the new water which really is in a category of its own. You'll need at least a GF4 to see it in all its glory though; owners of older video cards will have to fly over the old-style IL-2 water. But that's still not bad, the older water is also looking rather well.

And then of course for the hard-core IL-2 player hardened online and bruised in numerous forum fights, there are the FM and DM improvements (that's flight modeling and damage modeling for the more fortunate souls who have never seen the insides of a 15-page thread on 109G6 climb rate). FM has certainly improved since IL-2 and planes in general respond even more like the real thing.
The damage modeling is however where the most significant improvement was made. Explosive and penetrating effects of each round is modeled and tracked much more thoroughly, and as the result the result you will have an even more life-like situation where new pilots will miss even more and aces even less. Hitting a vulnerable spot will destroy your target with just a short burst and often a single cannon hit. However not aiming and hitting some less vulnerable spots will have very little effect, especially on larger targets. Fire all of your B-239's ammunition into a TB-3's mid wing and all you'll be hitting is thin aluminum and some spider webs. You'll run out of ammo and the bomber will continue flying on, covered with MG bullet holes. However aim at the exposed pilot, and the bomber will go into a death dive after a half-second burst
And finally, there is the new level of customizability. You can finally apply custom skins to planes in single-player. And FB now fully supports custom 1024x1024 skins both offline and online - although it'll of course take a bit longer to transfer your new 1024 skin up to all the participants of an online dogfight.
The pilot model is also completely new. The chimp-armed Gumpy is gone and his replacement actually looks like a human being, in a flying helmet and with goggles. The pilot even puts on an oxygen mask when he gets higher. You can put your own high-res photos on the pilot, both your own and AI. It'll keep your custom skin when you bail out so you can enjoy seeing your own face on the little guy as he runs away from yet another wreck you make struggling to learn the intricacies of prop pitch.
Finally to top things off, the night operations are greatly expanded. Nights are made darker, but they'll be illuminated with the new searchlights. Many of the non-illuminated areas will be filled with the new barrage balloons. It adds a tremendous amount of atmosphere to see searchlights light up and move through the night sky as your bomber formation flies straight and level on its bombing run, shadows of the barrage balloons appearing briefly in the streams of light. Then the light finds you and the screen turns white in a blinding flash - and then the flak explosions begin to go off all around you. It really is a scary experience, and one area overall where FB really begins to shine is in the single-play gameplay. All of the great elements - graphics, clouds, plane interiors, radio chatter, flight and damage modeling, multitude of planes and ground targets - they all come together to create a very involving experience that does a remarkable job of recreating the many aspects of aerial combat on the Eastern Front.

comanche 4 videl tut ftp://ftp.ie.tusur.ru

21.02.2003

Фирма "1С" сообщает об отправке в печать мастер-диска игры "Ил-2 Штурмовик: Забытые сражения".

"Ил-2 Штурмовик: Забытые сражения" - продолжение легендарного авиасимулятора "Ил-2 Штурмовик", который получил более 40 престижных международных наград.

"Ил-2 Штурмовик: Забытые сражения" включает кампании на основных фронтах Великой Отечественной войны, в том числе сражения на финском и венгерском направлениях, десятки миссий для многопользовательского и однопользовательского режима. Новые уникальные игровые карты созданы на основе реальных документов 1939-1945 гг.

130 самолетов, 80 из которых, включая различные модификации, игрок сможет пилотировать. Два типа управляемых многомоторных бомбардировщиков.
Система динамических кампаний.
Более реалистичная система управления двигателями самолетов, включая многомоторные.
Усовершенствованная модель поведения пилотов, управляемых компьютером.
Максимально детализированные модели городов. Основные достопримечательности Ленинграда и Хельсинки - под крылом вашего самолета.
Ночные миссии. В свете прожекторов, лавируя между аэростатами заграждения и уходя от огня зениток, вам предстоит совершать ночные бомбовые налеты.
Расширенный до 32 игроков многопользовательский режим для сценариев.
Дополнительные возможности по созданию своих собственных миссий. Все наземные объекты теперь доступны для использования.
В игре "Ил-2 Штурмовик: Забытые сражения" представлены все карты и самолеты из предыдущей части игры, в том числе из бесплатных дополнений к "Ил-2 Штурмовик".
В игру добавлены некоторые модели самолетов, созданные поклонниками игры "Ил-2 Штурмовик".

Игра появится в продаже 4 марта 2003 года.

Что бы небыло мучительно больно, при разглядывании скриншотов с LockOn, и в доказательство конкурентоспособности графики "Забытых сражений", вот вам картинка.

З.Ы. А вообще я думаю, что движок у них один.

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Исправление работы защиты от 06.03.2002.

Для нормального запуска игры "ИЛ-2 Штурмовик" после установки "ИЛ-2 Штурмовик: Забытые сражения", нужно скопировать файлы данного обновления в корневой каталог игры "ИЛ-2 Штурмовик". Для запуска игры "ИЛ-2 Штурмовик" после установки обновления используйте следующий ключ: D9LM4J-PAFKJ3-MNZBLK-UKJASA.


Чтобы установить обновление:
Скачайте файл ftp://lanserv2.ic.tsu.ru/incoming/il-2/fb/addon_protection.exe
Запустите файл addon_protection.exe.
В открывшемся окне нажмите кнопку Browse и укажите директорию, в которой установлена игра "Ил-2 Штурмовик".
Нажмите кнопку Unzip.

Важная информация находится в файле Readme (protection).rtf в директории игры - прочитайте ее пеpед запуском обновленной версии игры.

купил сегодня диск ил2 зысы - так он даже не запускается! пипец, защита говорит не могу опознать диск. они оху%ли там вконец? разве можно такое продавать? я и бесплатно не взял бы еслиб знал. слышал что все плохо, но чтоб настолько...

попробую сегодня обновление поставить.

Не могу файл скачать, ссылка не работает

Это файл для того, что бы Штурмовик, после установки ЗС работал...

А ваще зайди на сам ftp и посмотри. лог - fido пароль - cocacola.

Там всякого уже много...

Люди! изложите подробно как ЗС ставить... скачал вот отсюда....ftp://lanserv2.ic.tsu.ru/incoming/il-2/fb
распокавал всё....обновления поставил... и нифига...типа начинает загружаться, бегут проценты на картинке где дора падает доходит до 100% и всё скидывается....вижу просто свой рабочий стол...какбудто ничего и не загружалось... мож что то не так делал.?...или не в той очередности распаковывал?

Обновление не ставь, отучалка от СД не работает тогда !!! Просто распаковывай и играй.

Съездий на Пушкина ,там скорее всего уже есть нормальный диск. Не поскупись и играй с удовольствием.

Пушкина-мушкина... это это это этта где?
урл, сестра, урл !
адрес т.е.

Это магазин "орбита" на улице Яковлева - сразу через 500 метров после пересечения улиц Пушкина и Яковлева...

thx, omw

С лансерва если качать, то все работает...
только если патчи не ставить, которые там прилогаются.
Я даже со СПУДИ поколбасился на этих дистрибутивах...
Сервер именно с них запускал...


ЗЫ
Иван если раздобудешь настоящий Засраный Срожений от 1С, скажи я у возьму копии снять... Мне вот лично просто ДЕНЕГ жалко...

Гы.... бармал зайди ко мне домой у меня на полке валяются Забитые с рождения от 1с можешь взять.

В "Орбите" его нет. В понедельник его не было. Сказали появится через 2 недели. Следовательно, еще примерно месяц его там не будет. Может в "Игреме" раньше появится. Не знаю. ПЛЗ, если кто увидит в продаже нормальный диск скиньте месагу в сюда или в любую другую тему. Хотя ждать уже надоело.

В игреме я его покупал 14 !!! МАРТА !!!!!

Да есть он и в "Орбите" - 208 рублей, и в "Игреме" - 18* рублей. И там и там джевелы, боксовых нет.
А чё, аддон с самолётами говорят вышел, да?!

А вы уверены, что это 1.0R сколько не искал этой надписи на коробке все никак не мог найти.